[MLUG] Mtl All-Girl Hack Night 2.0

[Leslie Satenstein]

I have worked for both genders, and the best boss was the one who was a
good inspirator, and a good leader, and respected the skills I brought to
the project.



On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Sofia Danna <sofia.m.danna at gmail.com>wrote:

> It may be difficult to understand that it can be discouraging, daunting,
> and plain intimidating to approach something like hacking when one has
> never experienced what it's like to be a minority that, as a rule, is
> deemed to be incapable of it. But when social norms have historically
> excluded women from certain realms, it's necessary to be proactive in
> changing those trends. No one is arguing that a female-only hackfest is the
> ideal; rather, it is a measure to attempt to correct strong biases that
> currently exist. When women comprise half of STEM professionals, this
> argument will hold. Until then, there is work to do.
>
> Sofia
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Gary Baribault <gary at baribault.net>wrote:
>
>>  Hey,. I have nothing whatsoever against women, and still less in our
>> chosen profession, like Leslie, I've been doing this for years (37??) and
>> find that women bring something special to our industry, and I also deplore
>> that there seems to be less and less of them. My objection was much more
>> generic than that .. Woman hate when their excluded and raise a stick when
>> they are, but never hesitate to have women only activities. If we had Men
>> Only activities, they would scream blue murder, and yet here we are all
>> happy about being excluded from a women only hackfest...
>>
>> Gary B
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 02/05/2013 11:23 AM, Patricia Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Interesting and slightly offensive thread (at start), the numbers of
>> women in ICT have been dropping for years.  No one seems to have a concrete
>> reason.   I have seen it this drop as a professional and as a teacher.
>>  If a hackfest for women means that it gets more women involved that is
>> great, we need men and women in the field.    As Brian said " For some
>> values of `welcome'."   it is hard to see from another's perspective...
>>
>>  Patricia Campbell
>> ICT professional using Linux & Unix since 1992
>>
>>  On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jeremy <me at jeremychapman.info> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13-02-05 09:08 AM, Gary Baribault wrote:
>>>
>>>> The difference is that women where welcome at previous hackfests, they
>>>> just chose not to adhere.
>>>>
>>>  The real answer here is for you to call a hackfest. Find a meeting
>>> place and a time and announce it. I will put it up on the website and we
>>> can go hacking. I have a hundred things that need hacking.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeremy
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